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Mathias
2005-08-24 23:31:37 UTC
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Hi,

I was just wondering how many people are still using this language here. I
remember that one year ago, seven people answered yes to the same question
asked by someone else.

thank you.
Mathias
Derek
2005-08-25 00:10:45 UTC
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Yes, I'm still using it. Just for hobby purposes though.

Cheers

Derek
H-Man
2005-08-25 16:04:15 UTC
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Post by Mathias
Hi,
I was just wondering how many people are still using this language here. I
remember that one year ago, seven people answered yes to the same question
asked by someone else.
thank you.
Mathias
Still using it occasionally, or rather make that rarely. Down to about 2 or
3 quick utilities per year.
--
HK
Ethan Winer
2005-09-02 12:33:52 UTC
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Mathias,
I was just wondering how many people are still using this language here. <
I don't use VB-DOS (never did), but I do use QuickBASIC. I wrote three
programs in QB this year, including a big major one that reports on my
company's web site. My web host's reporting is lame (as are most web hosts),
so I wrote my own reports program that shows number of page hits, files
downloaded, and so forth.

--Ethan
Dick Grier
2005-09-02 18:27:28 UTC
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Hi Ethan,

Well, I have to admit, I haven't written any QB (variations) programs for
several years. Sometimes I miss the "old days."

Dick
--
Richard Grier (Microsoft Visual Basic MVP)

See www.hardandsoftware.net for contact information.

Author of Visual Basic Programmer's Guide to Serial Communications, 4th
Edition ISBN 1-890422-28-2 (391 pages) published July 2004. See
www.mabry.com/vbpgser4 to order.
Ethan Winer
2005-09-03 13:18:46 UTC
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Dick,
Sometimes I miss the "old days." <
One of the guys who used to work for me at Crescent Software has been a good
friend for 35+ years and is a full-time VB programmer. The last time I
visited him he told me the latest version of VB for Windows STILL doesn't
have all the debugging features of QB 4.5. I think he said edit and resume
is still missing. But it's promised for a future version, of course! :->)

--Ethan
Dick Grier
2005-09-06 15:20:04 UTC
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Hi Ethan,
Windows STILL doesn't
have all the debugging features of QB 4.5. I think he said edit and resume
is still missing. But it's promised for a future version, of course! :->)
<<

It is in Visual Studio 2005 (with some delay due to recompilation and
cleanup).

Dick
--
Richard Grier (Microsoft Visual Basic MVP)

See www.hardandsoftware.net for contact information.

Author of Visual Basic Programmer's Guide to Serial Communications, 4th
Edition ISBN 1-890422-28-2 (391 pages) published July 2004. See
www.mabry.com/vbpgser4 to order.
Ethan Winer
2005-09-06 15:58:00 UTC
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Dick,
It is in Visual Studio 2005 <
Ah, finally, in 2005 Windows programmers have what I've enjoyed since 1987!

--Ethan
Jim Mack
2005-09-06 16:05:40 UTC
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Post by Ethan Winer
Dick,
It is in Visual Studio 2005 <
Ah, finally, in 2005 Windows programmers have what I've enjoyed since 1987!
--Ethan
You mean we too now have the adulation and gratitude of our peers?

:-)
--
Jim
Ethan Winer
2005-09-07 17:37:40 UTC
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Jim,
You mean we too now have the adulation and gratitude of our peers? <
Oh, that never happens.

Actually, a good friend of mine is a web programmer, and I showed him the
web reports program I wrote recently in QB 4.5 and how much better it is
than what my web host offers, and he asked me to make a version for him. So
maybe it happens occasionally...

--Ethan
A. David Garza Marín
2005-10-10 00:28:42 UTC
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Post by Ethan Winer
Dick,
It is in Visual Studio 2005 <
Ah, finally, in 2005 Windows programmers have what I've enjoyed since 1987!
Well, Ethan, not totally true...

VB.NET at last have what we're using since 1987 (I am a BASIC programmer
since 1985, but in 1987 I started to use QuickBASIC). But VB (from version
3) has all those tools since then...
--
A. David Garza Marin
Field Application Engineer
AMD Latin America, LTD
Dan Barclay
2005-10-24 22:25:44 UTC
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Post by Dick Grier
Hi Ethan,
Windows STILL doesn't
have all the debugging features of QB 4.5. I think he said edit and resume
is still missing. But it's promised for a future version, of course! :->)
<<
It is in Visual Studio 2005 (with some delay due to recompilation and
cleanup).
E&C is in there. Unfortunately, Basic is not.

Dan
Post by Dick Grier
Dick
--
Richard Grier (Microsoft Visual Basic MVP)
See www.hardandsoftware.net for contact information.
Author of Visual Basic Programmer's Guide to Serial Communications, 4th
Edition ISBN 1-890422-28-2 (391 pages) published July 2004. See
www.mabry.com/vbpgser4 to order.
Dan Barclay
2005-10-24 22:24:58 UTC
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Ethan,

The latest version of VB *does* have Edit and Continue. VB never lost it.

VB6 is the last version of VB, and that won't change.

Dan <just dropped in from the Delphi fora <sigh>>
Post by Ethan Winer
Dick,
Sometimes I miss the "old days." <
One of the guys who used to work for me at Crescent Software has been a good
friend for 35+ years and is a full-time VB programmer. The last time I
visited him he told me the latest version of VB for Windows STILL doesn't
have all the debugging features of QB 4.5. I think he said edit and resume
is still missing. But it's promised for a future version, of course! :->)
--Ethan
Ethan Winer
2005-10-25 17:36:00 UTC
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Hey Dan,
The latest version of VB *does* have Edit and Continue. <
I guess Phil was thinking about something else missing?

--Ethan
Dan Barclay
2005-10-25 17:41:05 UTC
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Post by Ethan Winer
Hey Dan,
The latest version of VB *does* have Edit and Continue. <
I guess Phil was thinking about something else missing?
More likely, he was confusing vFred for VB <g>. There will be no future
versions of Visual Basic. VB6 is the last, and it has Edit and Continue!

Dan

Brad Kunkel
2005-09-02 16:32:53 UTC
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Post by Mathias
Hi,
I was just wondering how many people are still using this language here. I
remember that one year ago, seven people answered yes to the same question
asked by someone else.
thank you.
Mathias
I work with Basic PDS and still have a couple of large apps that I maintain.
Both are being converted to Windows because, as time goes by, printing
issues are becoming more and more of a problem. DOS isn't completely dead
but I think that it will be with the advent of 64-bit XP. Too bad, because
DOS apps are definitely faster for data entry.

Regards,
Brad Kunkel
Integrated Business, Inc.
a***@NOW.AT.arargh.com
2005-09-02 22:58:40 UTC
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On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 10:32:53 -0600, "Brad Kunkel"
Post by Brad Kunkel
Post by Mathias
Hi,
I was just wondering how many people are still using this language here. I
remember that one year ago, seven people answered yes to the same question
asked by someone else.
thank you.
Mathias
I work with Basic PDS and still have a couple of large apps that I maintain.
BCET may be some help - 2nd URL in sig.
Post by Brad Kunkel
Both are being converted to Windows because, as time goes by, printing
issues are becoming more and more of a problem. DOS isn't completely dead
but I think that it will be with the advent of 64-bit XP. Too bad, because
DOS apps are definitely faster for data entry.
Yes, but for most people they aren't 'cute' enough.
--
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BCET Basic Compiler Page: http://www.arargh.com/basic/index.html

To reply by email, remove the garbage from the reply address.
Brad Kunkel
2005-09-03 17:12:33 UTC
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Post by a***@NOW.AT.arargh.com
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 10:32:53 -0600, "Brad Kunkel"
Post by Brad Kunkel
I work with Basic PDS and still have a couple of large apps that I maintain.
BCET may be some help - 2nd URL in sig.
I have looked at BCET in the past and it's a nice piece of work but I have
so many direct calls to Btrieve, LIBs linked in, and a custom runtime
module. So, I figured it wasn't worth the time to re-write, mostly because
of your second comment below.
Post by a***@NOW.AT.arargh.com
Post by Brad Kunkel
Too bad, because
DOS apps are definitely faster for data entry.
Yes, but for most people they aren't 'cute' enough.
You are so right. Potential new users would never consider buying a DOS
application these days.

Regards,
Brad Kunkel
a***@NOW.AT.arargh.com
2005-09-03 21:33:13 UTC
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On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 11:12:33 -0600, "Brad Kunkel"
Post by Brad Kunkel
Post by a***@NOW.AT.arargh.com
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 10:32:53 -0600, "Brad Kunkel"
Post by Brad Kunkel
I work with Basic PDS and still have a couple of large apps that I maintain.
BCET may be some help - 2nd URL in sig.
I have looked at BCET in the past and it's a nice piece of work but I have
so many direct calls to Btrieve, LIBs linked in, and a custom runtime
module. So, I figured it wasn't worth the time to re-write, mostly because
of your second comment below.
No, I agree that in this case it isn't worth the time. But, if, in
the future a PHB says that it HAS to be windows, then maybe.

<snip>
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BCET Basic Compiler Page: http://www.arargh.com/basic/index.html

To reply by email, remove the garbage from the reply address.
a***@NOW.AT.arargh.com
2005-09-02 22:59:20 UTC
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Post by Mathias
Hi,
I was just wondering how many people are still using this language here. I
remember that one year ago, seven people answered yes to the same question
asked by someone else.
PDS Basic is still my primary language.
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ArarghMail509 at [drop the 'http://www.' from ->] http://www.arargh.com
BCET Basic Compiler Page: http://www.arargh.com/basic/index.html

To reply by email, remove the garbage from the reply address.
A. David Garza Marín
2005-10-10 00:30:32 UTC
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Post by a***@NOW.AT.arargh.com
PDS Basic is still my primary language.
Je... Mine was GW-BASIC back in 1985.
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A. David Garza Marin
Field Application Engineer
AMD Latin America, LTD
a***@NOW.AT.arargh.com
2005-10-10 04:21:41 UTC
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On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:30:32 -0500, "A. David Garza Marín"
Post by A. David Garza Marín
Post by a***@NOW.AT.arargh.com
PDS Basic is still my primary language.
Je... Mine was GW-BASIC back in 1985.
From 75 to 85 my primary language was Point-4 Basic. Ran on the IRIS
operating system. From Point 4 Corp, previously EDS, Inc.

37 days?
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Martin
2005-09-09 08:36:23 UTC
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I tried, but the 5.25" floppy's won't fit in my new PC ;-)
Post by Mathias
Hi,
I was just wondering how many people are still using this language here. I
remember that one year ago, seven people answered yes to the same question
asked by someone else.
thank you.
Mathias
Michael Cole
2005-09-12 00:40:37 UTC
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Post by Martin
I tried, but the 5.25" floppy's won't fit in my new PC ;-)
They will if you fold them in half...
Post by Martin
Post by Mathias
Hi,
I was just wondering how many people are still using this language
here. I remember that one year ago, seven people answered yes to the
same question asked by someone else.
thank you.
Mathias
--
Regards,

Michael Cole
A. David Garza Marín
2005-10-10 00:25:27 UTC
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Myself. :-)

I am using it frequently. And succesfully. :)
--
A. David Garza Marin
Field Application Engineer
AMD Latin America, LTD
Post by Mathias
Hi,
I was just wondering how many people are still using this language here. I
remember that one year ago, seven people answered yes to the same question
asked by someone else.
thank you.
Mathias
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